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Sunday, 23 November 2008

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  l a thompson

iam loking to wright a book on the canal sistom and would licke to use some betals on the vibeos all thows with such dater can i have ther pomishon send to short2030@googlemail.con and give detals and terms of use pleas exskos the spling les

Stev

Andrew,

I think someone needs to read the Terms of Use for YouTube:

Section C states:

"You also hereby grant each user of the YouTube Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service."

Which I think puts you totally in the right!

Steve

roger

talk about a storm in a teacup.

anyway thanks Andrew for bringing it to our attention, along with the others that go with it, like this little gem -

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=litAlqXjlG0

Martin

Jack I think that analogy is not valid: in that case there is only one boat pole - if 'b' takes it then 'a' no longer can use it.
In the case of a link to Youtube, 'a', 'b', 'c', and 'd' can all make the same link, each has just the same access. It's different isn't it?

Jack May

nah - I think you missed the point.

You didn't ask permission to repost the content, and when you did he objected, and instead of apologising, you tell him he doesn't know what he's doing.

perhaps it would be easier for you to understand like this:

If I took your boat pole, because you hadn't 'understood' how to lock it up (which of course very few people do) would that be just the same? Yes, it would.

If you then complained when you'd seen your boat pole on my boat, and instead of apologising and returning it told him where to buy a lock, would that be the same too? Yes.

Bill Rodgers

Wow Andy,
The guy doesn't know how to use Youtube and blames you for it. Guess it goes to show that maybe some people shouldn't use the technology if they don't understand it. Keep up, keeping us informed.

Andrew Denny

Jack:
That's not the way YouTube works. Nothing was stolen. YouTube embedding exists for exactly the purpose I used it, to help people have their content seen more widely precisely WITHOUT it being 'stolen'.

As for manners, well, many thanks for your kind informative comment. However, I'm too old to learn 'em, and like Alfred Doolittle with his morals I'm too poor to afford 'em.

But consider this: I spent valuable time looking for the link to the YouTube help page that explains how to turn off the embedding, so he didn't have to spend his own time looking. And still more time making this reply literate and thoughtful. Most people in my position would have been far more succinct.

Jack May

Q: why did you steal my X?

A: you didn't lock it up.

You stole content, and instead of apologising, you go out of your way to patronise the originator of the material. Learn some manners, Denny.

Andrew Denny

Er, 2cvbloke, you'll need to 'disable embedding' if you don't want it to appear on other sites. By not disabling embedding, you automatically give permission for other blogs to do it.

I'm not sure if you understand what embedding is. This isn't a separate upload to my blog; in effect it's a 'window' into your YouTube account.

One thing I'm always punctilious about is acknowledging where things came from. So I was very careful to point out that this was 2cvbloke's video.

If you want to disable embedding, here's the instructions:

http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en-uk&answer=74648

twocvbloke

Er, it would have been nice to have been asked permission to use my video on this site!!!

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